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Richard BowmanAt this time I would like to acknowledge and thank Richard A. Bowman for permission to use selections and photographs from his book

"A Tin Can Named Mansfield: A History of the USS Mansfield (DD728)."

There were not many copies of this work published and feel this is a way as many people as possible can view this comprehensive history of our ship.

Richard A. Bowman enlisted in the Navy, March 1948. His shipboard assignment to the Mansfield was from the summer of 1948 until late 1950. He served two tours of duty in the Korean War. First aboard the Mansfield, and then reassignment to the USS Tortuga (LSD-26), which had been mobilized and recommissioned from the mothball fleet. Tortuga deployed to Korea via Japan from December 1950 until March 1952. He was honorably discharged from the Navy at San Francisco, CA, 29 October 1952, a Quartermaster Second Class Petty Officer, having served four years, seven months and six days.

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Requesting your help

MANSFIELD Shipmates:

If you were aboard the Mansfield November/December 1965 when we went up the Saigon River and anchored while giving support fire, I need your help. I am trying to document this fact for the Veterans Administration (VA) to support a claim for typeII diabetes which falls under the Agent Orange umbrella. According to them "we can't make a claim unless we disembarked the ship" while in Vietnam. Although we literally didn't go ashore, we did anchor in the middle of the river within "spitting" distance of the banks. Obviously, they think any airborne substances stop at the water's edge and then continue on the other side.

So here's how you can help me: (and any other shipmates trying to make a claim)

  • If you remember being at anchor during our shore bombardment assignment, please write (via regular mail) and describe, in your own words, how close you feel we were to the shore and any other facts you may think are important. (If by chance you have any pictures taken at that time, please include them.)

My snail mail:

Karl Kristiansen
901 Tobey Street
Acushnet, MA 02743-1709

I would also like to gather other anecdotal data that may help:

  • If you were on deck at all during that bombardment assignment, have you contracted type II diabetes (insulin dependent or not) or any other ailments that fall under Agent Orange?

  • Have you filed a claim with the VA regarding this? Any success?

    Thanks in advance for any help you can give me,
    Karl Kristiansen (SA/65-66)


UPDATE - December 1, 2005

I received a letter from the VA dated December 1, 2005 denying my claim for type 2 diabetes.

The main reason seems to be the following as stated in the "EVIDENCE" portion of their letter:

  • Response from the US National Archives dated September 15, 2005, stating the USS DD-728 was in the official waters off the Republic of Vietnam. There is no record you went ashore, or up a river into the mainland of the Republic of Vietnam.

In the "REASONS FOR DECISION" portion of their letter they wrote:

  • Review of the uncertified statements submitted in support of your claim are not taken as proof that the destroyer class Mansfield traveled into the Republic of Vietnam, up the Saigon River between November 25, 1965 and December 24, 1965, the dates the US National Archives, National Personnel Records Center, verified your ship was in the official waters of Vietnam. the official US Navy website, www.history.navy.mil shows the Mansfield provided gunfire support for South Vietnamese, Australian, and American forces fighting in South Vietnam. No conclusive evidence of in-country service has been submitted.

    Service connection may be established based on a relationship to herbicide exposure only if evidence demonstrates that the veteran served in Vietnam during the Vietnam era. As the required service in Vietnam is not shown, service connection for type 2 diabetes mellitus is denied.

So, there you have it shipmates. I plan to go on to the appeals process and will keep you updated.

Once again, I ask that any Mansfield crewman onboard during this time frame that remember going up the river to shoot, please contact me. I would especially like to hear from anyone who was in communications, navigation and/or CIC to contact me if they remember these missions.


UPDATE - December 15, 2005

I visited my VA agent and we sent a letter requesting the paper work for an appeal. He said that will basically be a retelling of my story in all the detail I can remember. So once again, I ask my shipmates for any help they can give me. I have the deck logs for December 1965 and there is no mention of ANY shooting missions or even being at GQ. I find this pretty strange. I know we all didn't imagine this stuff. So if anyone can shed any light on this PLEASE CONTACT ME.

I'm going to start searching the internet for any Army ops during that period that used Navy support fire. I do recall it being mentioned that the spotter pilot we had was Army.


UPDATE - January 9, 2006

I had my appointment at the VA Medical Center in Providence, RI today. I had an EKG, blood test and a C&P (Compensation and Pension) exam. According the person who gave me the C&P exam, my claim must have been accepted in order to have this exam. She will send the results of her exam to the VA Regional panel and they will decide on any compensation I am to receive. I will keep you posted.


UPDATE - March 15, 2006

I received a letter from the VA stating they have granted me a disability (TYPE 2 Diabetes Mellitus) rating of 20% falling under the Agent Orange umbrella. This is retro-active to the effective date of September 1, 2004.

I would like to thank all the shipmates that wrote letters supporting my claim. They were one of the factors the VA took into consideration in approving my claim. One good thing that comes of this is the fact the VA now agrees we were, indeed, in Vietnam.

I would also like to thank Town of Dartmouth (MA) Veterans' Agent Shawn Goldstein for his help and guidance.

So contrary to my original beliefs, shipboard sailors can get a VA claim approved.


FINAL UPDATE - April 8, 2006

The checks from the VA were direct deposited to my account on March 15, 2006 (Retroactive check) and March 31, 2006 (monthly check).

So it can be done. If you are trying to get compensation from the VA, don't give up. Please feel free to use my case as a reference.


NEW REQUEST FOR HELP - November 13, 2006

This request is on behalf of shipmate MM3 U.S. Grant:

"I am a law professor at Widener University School of Law, Wilmington, DE. I direct a free legal clinic for disabled veterans and dependents called the Veterans Law Clinic. We do VA claim appeals and discharge reviews. U.S. Grant, a shipmate on your destroyer from 1961-63, is our client. He has PTSD and one of his claimed stressors is an incident off the coast of Viet Nam when Mansfield was buttoned up on GQ and under some kind of alert when pro driven aircraft were flying overhead. The main battery was fired just as Grant popped through a scuttle to the deck, Does anyone remember Grant or this incident?"

Please contact me:

Prof. Thomas J. Reed
Widener University School of Law
P.O. Box 7474
Wilmington, DE 19803-0474
TEL: 302-477-2070 FAX: 302-477-2257 e-mail. tjreed@mail.widener.edu


Link to the VA Agent Orange Page: http://www1.va.gov/agentorange/

BlueWaterNavy Linkhttp://www.bluewaternavy.org

Go to the Blue Water Navy site for details on their court case: Blue Water Navy Wins Court Ruling for Presumptive Agent Orange! ...the application of presumption of exposure to herbicides only to Vietnam-era veterans who set foot on land is inconsistent, plainly erroneous, and unreasonable, and must be SET ASIDE . ... the provision allowing for the presumption of exposure to herbicides based on receipt of the Vietnam Service Medal CONTROLS [the procedures of processing Claims for Disability]. You can download a PDF file of the Ruling at their website.


* * * Military Update: Agent Orange Victory Reversed for Sailors * * *
By Tom Philpot, Special to Stars and Stripes Pacific edition, Saturday, May 31, 2008

A federal appeals court has delivered a stinging defeat to 'Blue Water' sailors and Coast Guard veterans of the Vietnam War who have been fighting for disability compensation from illnesses they contend resulted from shipboard exposure to deadly herbicides including Agent Orange.

A three-judge panel for the U.S. Court of Appeals for the Federal Circuit ruled 2-1 on May 8 that the Department of Veterans Affairs acted lawfully and reasonably in 2002 when it cut off Agent Orange-related disability payments and began to deny new claims from veterans who served on ships off the coast of Vietnam but never actually "set foot" in country.

The decision reversed a 2006 ruling by the U.S. Court of Appeals for Veterans Claims in the case of Haas v. Nicholson. That three-judge panel unanimously rejected as "unduly restrictive" VA's interpretation, by revised regulation, of qualifying "service" in Vietnam under the Agent Orange Act.

The U.S. military sprayed herbicides over Vietnam from 1962 through 1971 to strip away foliage under which enemy forces could hide, to destroy crops and to clear vegetation from around facilities and fire bases.

Over the last two decades, Congress and VA expanded the list of illnesses linked to Agent Orange exposure and for which veterans can receive disability compensation. The list of ailments includes prostate cancer, type-2 diabetes, non-Hodgkin's lymphoma, certain soft-tissue sarcomas, chloracne and skin conditions, Hodgkin's disease, various respiratory cancers, leukemia and multiple myeloma.

VA officials worried that if the 2006 Haas decision survived a government appeal, the pool of veterans eligible for disability pay if they contract illnesses tied Agent Orange would jump by 830,000 and VA benefit costs would rise by $3.3 billion over 10 years.

But from 1991 until early 2002, the VA was paying Agent Orange-related claims filed by sailors who only served off waters of Vietnam, said Barton F. Stichman, an attorney with the National Veterans Legal Services Program. NVLSP lawyers have represented the claimant in this case, Jonathan L. Haas, a retired Navy Reserve commander.

Stichman said sea service veterans for a decade won claims based on ailments linked to Agent Orange with relative ease. A manual used by VA claim adjudicators advised them to make awards based on presumptive service-connection of certain diseases if sea service veterans had received the Vietnam Service Medal. The VSM had been awarded to all military members who served from July 3, 1965 through March 28, 1973, in Vietnam, its contiguous waters or even in its airspace.

Haas served on an ammunition supply ship, USS Mount Katmai from August 1967 to April 1969. The ship operated off Vietnam but didn't dock there and he never went ashore. By 2001, Haas had developed type-2 diabetes, peripheral neuropathy and loss of eyesight which he claimed were caused by herbicide exposure off Vietnam.

His regional VA office denied the claim, saying service connection couldn't be established because Haas had not gone ashore. The Board of Veterans Appeals agreed. It turned out VA had reinterpreted the Agent Orange Act of 1991 regarding the phrase "service in the Republic of Vietnam," requiring at least a brief visit on land to be considered exposed to Agent Orange and eligible for disability pay for herbicide-related ailments.

The veterans' claims court reviewed Haas' appeal with a three-judge panel so the decision would affect all claims filed by Blue Water veterans. It found the VA was being too restrictive, in part because ships along the coast might have been exposed to at least as much toxin from windborne coastal area spraying as service members deemed exposed from brief visits ashore.

But the U.S. Court of Appeals for the Federal District, in a 51-page opinion, has reversed the decision for Haas and fellow sailors, finding VA's stricter interpretation of service in Vietnam permissible.

The court acknowledged that in a 1990 regulation VA had defined service in Vietnam to include veterans offshore. It also noted that, even today, a VA regulation informed by a Center for Disease Control study allows presumption of service-connected Agent Orange exposure for sailors who served only offshore in Vietnam but suffer from non-Hodgkin's lymphoma.

The two-judge majority said Congress left ambiguous the meaning of having "served in the Republic of Vietnam" under the Agent Orange Act, and Haas pointed to no single clarifying statement in the legislative record. But Congress did give to the VA authority to interpret such ambiguities and those interpretations are "entitled to substantial deference," the court said.

But the third appeals court judge, Jeremy Fogel, dissented. He said judicial deference to administrative agencies is important but the appeals court should note that the intent of Congress has been to make it easier, not more difficult, for veterans to assert claims for exposure to Agent Orange.

"I agree with the Veterans Court," Fogel wrote, "that in the absence of any scientific evidence in the records that support a 'foot on land' requirement, the VA's position is unreasonable."

Stichman said Haas will seek a fresh review of the case from a full or en banc panel of seven appeals court judges. Such reviews are granted only sparingly. If that fails, an appeal to the Supreme Court will be weighed.

Veterans can learn more about the lawsuit on line at www.nvlsp.org or at bluewaternavy.org

Agent Orange Causes Genetic Disturbance.
Go here for details: http://content.karger.com/ProdukteDB/produkte.asp?Aktion=ShowAbstract&ArtikelNr=100407&Ausgabe=232915&ProduktNr=224037


Mesothelioma & Asbestos AwarenessCenter

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I am with the Mesothelioma & Asbestos Awareness Center. We aim to provide the most current and accurate information regarding asbestos exposure and its link to mesothelioma cancer. As you know, many Navy veterans were unknowingly exposed to asbestos while working in shipyards, and while onboard ships. I chose to contact you today because the USS Mansfield is one of those ships. When built at Bath Iron Works, asbestos was used as an insulator for many parts of the engine room and boiler room.

That said, in an effort to spread awareness about this terrible disease, I am trying to reach all those who understand this devastating disease and the importance to get good information out there. I would invite you to visit our site, especially our mesothelioma and veterans section. I am confident you will find that we have compiled a large resource for those who may be suffering from the disease or have family members who are. I would like to share this resource with your browsers, and would ask you to point a link to some portion of our navy section that you feel would be the most pertinent to your browsers, (possibly the Bath Iron Works page).

David Latimer
Mesothelioma & Asbestos Awareness Center
2.8.08


Another resource is The Mesothelioma Cancer Center.
Asbestos.com
You can vist their website here: Mesothelioma Cancer Center

The Online Asbestos, Asbestos Cancer, & Mesothelioma Authority
Asbestos.net
You can vist their website here: Asbestos.Net

Mesolink.org
MesoLink.org is a site created to provide you with up to date information on the deadly disease Mesothelioma. We strive to provide the most complete overview of the disease and all aspects of it. This includes general information on the disease, breaking news on the search for a cure and perspective legislation designed to limit you as well as all other news on the subject, links to other sites and online resources that can provide important and in-depth Mesothelioma and cancer related information, and a legal guide to help you with the complex legal issues involved with Mesothelioma.

You can vist their website here: Mesolink.org


VVMCT
I received an email today, 5 April 2008 from Rocky Rankin, former Australian Navy and Vietnam Vet. Rocky and I have been corresponding for many years and he has asked me to pass along information about this website to viewers of my webpage. I do so happily.


[Email Message] "This website is about the work my fellow member of the Vietnam Veterans Motorcycle Club does when he can get over to Cambodia. He pays for a lot of his equipment out of his own pocket as well as paying his own way to get there and while he is there. We have tried to give him money towards his expenses but he just hands it on to the people he is working for in the country. The website explains it rather well and he has a link for donations. Could you please pass this site around so that people can get to know about his work and support him with donations?"

Whether you can help with donations or by linking this site (http://members.optusnet.com.au/glaust/index-1.htm) from your website or blog or just telling others about its existence, please do so. Thank you for any help you can give. - Karl Kristiansen


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